Saturday, 5 April 2025

 

Goosey Goosey Gander

 
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Goosey Goosey Gander,

Whither shall I wander?

Upstairs and downstairs

And in my lady’s chamber.

There I met an old man

Who wouldn’t say his prayers,

So I took him by his left leg

And threw him down the stairs.

I often wondered about this rhyme as I recited it for my children. Why would a goose be indoors, or was the ‘speaker’ addressing a goose?

That must be it, for a goose would not be capable of throwing a man down the stairs.

I guessed it had something to do with religion, from the dark days when following the practice considered the ‘right’ one would be safe, but displaying heretical tendencies could cost one’s life, often in the most horrific manner.

In some communities ‘Left Footer’ refers to those who belong to the Church of Rome. The others are called ‘Prods,’ as in ‘Prodestants’ (Protestants)

One interpretation of the rhyme suggests that after Henry VIII’s break away from the Roman Catholic Church, in the early 16th century, new English language prayers replaced the old Latin prayers. Catholics became increasingly disliked, and feared, for they might rise up against the King. They were treated harshly, though the old Catholic noble families protected their family priests from execution, hiding them in priest holes in their houses. If discovered, the priests would be hauled from their hiding places and treated abominably, along with their protectors.

‘Goose’ is a sexual reference – indeed, being ‘goosed’ is still British slang for being pinched on the bottom (male to female, usually).

‘Goose’ was a slang name for a prostitute from the twelfth century onwards. ‘Winchester Goose’ referred to London prostitutes working in an area called the ‘Liberty of the Clink,’ also known as the ‘Liberty of the Bishops of Winchester.’

The Bishops of Winchester issued licences for brothels and prostitutes from the twelfth to the seventeenth centuries, and taxed them on their earnings. The prostitutes were denied Christian burial and were interred in an unconsecrated graveyard called ‘Cross Bones,’ in Southwark, which is now a memorial to them.

‘Winchester Goose’ became a common term for venereal disease, or for a person suffering from a sexually transmitted sickness. ‘Goose bumps’ refers to one of the symptoms of such ailments. Syphilis and gonorrhoea can cause a skin rash with bumps or sores. Be careful telling someone you have goose bumps. It’s unlikely, but they may know the origin of the phrase.

The inference in the rhyme is that a priest has been discovered in a brothel and, incapable of reciting the new prayers, is cast down the stairs.

The things we unknowingly teach our children!

47 comments:

  1. It's striking how much history, social commentary, and dark humor can be tucked into a few simple lines

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    1. The knowledge was undoubtedly familiar at the time of composition.

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  2. Really interesting post
    I think most of the old nursery rhymes we taught our children were social commentary on the times. I find them really interesting.

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  3. Hi Janice ... I well remember reciting this rhyme to my children too!!! Seems a long time ago now. I don't think a goose would be good indoors - I used to feed the neighbors geese frequently & they are messy dirty creatures I found.

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    1. I don't think they're easy to house-train!

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  4. I will never think of goose bumps the same way, but I may still say it because no one knows otherwise. 😀

    That was fun. 😎

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    1. I shall always remember goose bumps, for all the wrong reasons.

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  5. A word as simple as goose and it has so many meanings; craziness.

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    1. It makes you wonder how many other simple words have deeper, darker meanings.

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  6. Thankfully, this is one my children never learned, along with many others as they considered them babyish and quite silly.

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    1. They are nonsensical, but then lots of amusing things are, for little ones.

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  7. So many of the rhymes we sang with our children come from dark beginnings.

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  8. Well that’s really interesting…you do come up with some fascinating facts. Have a lovely weekend…I hope that the sun shines where you are! 😁

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    1. Thank you. The sun is shining, the wind is blowing . . .

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  10. Very interesting. Who would have thought that such an innocent rhyme would be so loaded.
    I remember an English tv show called Bread where the matriarch of the family referred to Protestants as Proddies.

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  11. Well, goodness me, what a story connected to that Nursery Rhyme. Thank you

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  12. I remember this poem from Mother Goose Rhymes. I used to have the book memorized when I was small. Later, much later, I found that they all had hidden special meaning and warning. Secret code passed by word of mouth.

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    1. Seemingly innocent but full of hidden meaning.

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  13. Goodness! I had no idea about this connection.
    An interesting read, thank you.

    All the best Jan

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    1. I don't know why it took me so long to winkle out the background.

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  14. I remember that rhyme being in a book I had when I was a child. I had no idea of it's meaning.

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    1. It sounds so innocent and silly, doesn't it?

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  15. It doesn't surprise me at all that an old nursery rhyme would have meanings unknown to most of us modern folks. I had no idea!

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  16. Fairy tales also have dark origins.

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  17. A lot of nursery rhymes are code for dark doings!

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    1. Iona and Peter Opie are the experts in this field.

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  18. Yeah, talk about exposing children to violence! I've heard "goosey goosey gander" but I'm not sure I ever knew the rest of the rhyme. If I did, I'd forgotten it.

    You sent me on a search to look up Cross Bones graveyard. I'll have to visit there sometime!

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  19. I can't recall ever having come across that one. (Probably not considered the most useful material neither for Swedish children just starting to learn English as second language. Nor for university students struggling with Shakespeare, even if his imagery could be just as tricky to interpret!)

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    1. Maybe there are Swedish alternatives with equally murky origins.

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  20. that is ok because back then in these meanings no one knew what they meant but a few and no way to find out with no internet and not exactly news in a paper. it goes right a long with the horrors of chopping off childrens hands because they stole a loaf of bread. life is MEAN and always has been and still is and will be because we are humans.
    I did not have nursery rhymes but did have Fairy Tales and boy were some of them crazy, like a big bad wolf dressed in Grannies gown and cap waiting to eat the little red riding hood..

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  21. The interesting things you present on your blog. I never knew goose bumps was a symptom of venereal disease. I like your new banner, too.

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    1. Thank you. The magnolia has suddenly burst into bloom.

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  22. Who knew this old nursery rhyme had so much intriguing history behind it! xxx

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  23. Wow! Thanks for enlightening me on this rhyme.

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