Goosey
Goosey Gander
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Goosey
Goosey Gander,
Whither
shall I wander?
Upstairs
and downstairs
And in my
lady’s chamber.
There I
met an old man
Who
wouldn’t say his prayers,
So I took
him by his left leg
And threw him down the stairs.
I often wondered about this rhyme as I recited it for my children. Why would a goose be indoors, or was the ‘speaker’ addressing a goose?
That must be it, for a goose would not be capable of throwing a man down the stairs.
I guessed it had something to do with religion, from the dark days when following the practice considered the ‘right’ one would be safe, but displaying heretical tendencies could cost one’s life, often in the most horrific manner.
In some communities ‘Left Footer’ refers to those who belong to the Church of Rome. The others are called ‘Prods,’ as in ‘Prodestants’ (Protestants)
One interpretation of the rhyme suggests that after Henry VIII’s break away from the Roman Catholic Church, in the early 16th century, new English language prayers replaced the old Latin prayers. Catholics became increasingly disliked, and feared, for they might rise up against the King. They were treated harshly, though the old Catholic noble families protected their family priests from execution, hiding them in priest holes in their houses. If discovered, the priests would be hauled from their hiding places and treated abominably, along with their protectors.
‘Goose’ is a sexual reference – indeed, being ‘goosed’ is still British slang for being pinched on the bottom (male to female, usually).
‘Goose’ was a slang name for a prostitute from the twelfth century onwards. ‘Winchester Goose’ referred to London prostitutes working in an area called the ‘Liberty of the Clink,’ also known as the ‘Liberty of the Bishops of Winchester.’
The Bishops of Winchester issued licences for brothels and prostitutes from the twelfth to the seventeenth centuries, and taxed them on their earnings. The prostitutes were denied Christian burial and were interred in an unconsecrated graveyard called ‘Cross Bones,’ in Southwark, which is now a memorial to them.
‘Winchester Goose’ became a common term for venereal disease, or for a person suffering from a sexually transmitted sickness. ‘Goose bumps’ refers to one of the symptoms of such ailments. Syphilis and gonorrhoea can cause a skin rash with bumps or sores. Be careful telling someone you have goose bumps. It’s unlikely, but they may know the origin of the phrase.
The inference in the rhyme is that a priest has been discovered in a brothel and, incapable of reciting the new prayers, is cast down the stairs.
The
things we unknowingly teach our children!
It's striking how much history, social commentary, and dark humor can be tucked into a few simple lines
ReplyDeleteThe knowledge was undoubtedly familiar at the time of composition.
DeleteReally interesting post
ReplyDeleteI think most of the old nursery rhymes we taught our children were social commentary on the times. I find them really interesting.
I think you're right.
DeleteHi Janice ... I well remember reciting this rhyme to my children too!!! Seems a long time ago now. I don't think a goose would be good indoors - I used to feed the neighbors geese frequently & they are messy dirty creatures I found.
ReplyDeleteI don't think they're easy to house-train!
DeleteI will never think of goose bumps the same way, but I may still say it because no one knows otherwise. 😀
ReplyDeleteThat was fun. 😎
I shall always remember goose bumps, for all the wrong reasons.
DeleteA word as simple as goose and it has so many meanings; craziness.
ReplyDeleteIt makes you wonder how many other simple words have deeper, darker meanings.
DeleteThankfully, this is one my children never learned, along with many others as they considered them babyish and quite silly.
ReplyDeleteThey are nonsensical, but then lots of amusing things are, for little ones.
DeleteFascinating, thank you
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DeleteSo many of the rhymes we sang with our children come from dark beginnings.
ReplyDelete. . . as do the fairy tales.
DeleteWell that’s really interesting…you do come up with some fascinating facts. Have a lovely weekend…I hope that the sun shines where you are! 😁
ReplyDeleteThank you. The sun is shining, the wind is blowing . . .
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ReplyDeleteVery interesting. Who would have thought that such an innocent rhyme would be so loaded.
ReplyDeleteI remember an English tv show called Bread where the matriarch of the family referred to Protestants as Proddies.
I remember that show, too.
DeleteWell, goodness me, what a story connected to that Nursery Rhyme. Thank you
ReplyDeleteDig deep and discover . . .
DeleteI remember this poem from Mother Goose Rhymes. I used to have the book memorized when I was small. Later, much later, I found that they all had hidden special meaning and warning. Secret code passed by word of mouth.
ReplyDeleteSeemingly innocent but full of hidden meaning.
DeleteGoodness! I had no idea about this connection.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting read, thank you.
All the best Jan
I don't know why it took me so long to winkle out the background.
DeleteI remember that rhyme being in a book I had when I was a child. I had no idea of it's meaning.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds so innocent and silly, doesn't it?
DeleteIt doesn't surprise me at all that an old nursery rhyme would have meanings unknown to most of us modern folks. I had no idea!
ReplyDeleteFairy tales also have dark origins.
ReplyDeleteA lot of nursery rhymes are code for dark doings!
ReplyDeleteIona and Peter Opie are the experts in this field.
DeleteYeah, talk about exposing children to violence! I've heard "goosey goosey gander" but I'm not sure I ever knew the rest of the rhyme. If I did, I'd forgotten it.
ReplyDeleteYou sent me on a search to look up Cross Bones graveyard. I'll have to visit there sometime!
I hope it lives up to expectations.
DeleteI can't recall ever having come across that one. (Probably not considered the most useful material neither for Swedish children just starting to learn English as second language. Nor for university students struggling with Shakespeare, even if his imagery could be just as tricky to interpret!)
ReplyDeleteMaybe there are Swedish alternatives with equally murky origins.
Deletethat is ok because back then in these meanings no one knew what they meant but a few and no way to find out with no internet and not exactly news in a paper. it goes right a long with the horrors of chopping off childrens hands because they stole a loaf of bread. life is MEAN and always has been and still is and will be because we are humans.
ReplyDeleteI did not have nursery rhymes but did have Fairy Tales and boy were some of them crazy, like a big bad wolf dressed in Grannies gown and cap waiting to eat the little red riding hood..
Fairy tales are notoriously black.
DeleteThe interesting things you present on your blog. I never knew goose bumps was a symptom of venereal disease. I like your new banner, too.
ReplyDeleteThank you. The magnolia has suddenly burst into bloom.
DeleteWho knew this old nursery rhyme had so much intriguing history behind it! xxx
ReplyDeleteQuite!
DeleteI had no idea!
ReplyDeleteI didn't know it was quite so dark.
DeleteWow! Thanks for enlightening me on this rhyme.
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