Sunday, 2 June 2024

Bar or cake?

 

Bar or cake? 

I put some new soap in the cloakroom earlier. The soap already in there was looking grimy, with great dark fissures in it. When I was teaching, I always insisted that soap should be washed after use. If the dirt from hands remains on the surface of the soap, all too soon deep cracks appear.

Obviously, I haven’t been insisting strenuously enough – or even at all! - at home. It’s no good saying, ‘It’s clean dirt’ – that is, from the garden soil – the effect will be the same.

 Why does soap get like that? I found this, which explains it more clearly than I can:-

Soaps are simply mixtures of sodium or potassium salts derived from fatty acids and alkali solutions during a process called saponification. Each soap molecule is made of a long, non-polar, hydrophobic (repelled by water) hydrocarbon chain (the "tail") capped by a polar, hydrophilic (water-soluble) "salt" head. 

Because soap molecules have both polar and non-polar properties, they're great emulsifiers, which means they can disperse one liquid into another. When you wash your dirty hands with soap and water, the tails of the soap molecules are repelled by water and attracted to oils, which attract dirt. 

The tails cluster together and form structures called micellestrapping the dirt and oils. The micelles are negatively charged and soluble in water, so they repel each other and remain dispersed in water—and can easily be washed away.

Not only should soap be rinsed after use, it should be patted dry with a cloth. Otherwise, it should be left to air-dry, which is what I and I guess most people do, or have I been living in ignorance all my life? Another suggestion is not to leave it in a wet or humid area, so make sure your bathroom is well-ventilated, preferably with a stiff breeze blowing through it. 😉

As I removed the disgusting-looking but pleasantly scented soap to be used where it would not give visual offence, and replaced it with fresh-smelling clean lavender soap, I pondered why some people speak of bars while others insist on cakes of soap. Was there a difference and did it matter?

The short answer was that the only difference lies in the shape of the soap. A bar of soap is rectangular or oval while a cake of soap is moulded into shapes that look like little cakes, but can also be rectangular or oval. Some are formed into little hearts or shells or animals. 

I think, also, that cakes of soap are usually smaller than bars of soap. So-called ‘guest soaps’ are usually unfeasibly small and are of little use for more than a delicate dip in the water. 

 Another source informed that a cake of soap is an old-fashioned name for a bar of soap. It may have arisen because soap was manufactured in large bars. The required length was then cut off, just as a cake is sliced. In the same way, we have ‘bars of chocolate’ and ‘gold bars’.

39 comments:

  1. Or use a liquid soap which comes out out of a bottle when you press down the lever on the top. The remaining soap itself is never touched by human hands.

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    1. There is a device made by 'Simple Human' by which passing the hands underneath the release point allows washing hands without touching the container at all. We had one, but after a while it stopped working!

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  2. I like bars of soap: the pretty colors, interesting shapes, and so forth but we have switched to liquid soap. It seems cleaner and less bother. Oh, the dilemma of what to do with those little slivers when the bar was nearly finished.

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    1. We have a little sponge-effect bag for the slivers of soap. I'm not sure it's terribly effective, though.

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  3. WEll that is cool info! I used to make soap and it was bars that I made. It had to cure for about two months before use.

    I bought a bar of lovely soap in London that I used a few times but there was enough of it to matter, brought it back with me-I am STILL using it - and I wash it every time. Lasts forever!! Air dry. Best soap I have ever purchased!

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    1. Can you remember the brand of soap? It sounds amazing.

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  4. I agree that dirt should be rinsed off the soap, but it isn't the dirt thta causes the fissures. Most often that is caused by the soap drying out too much, if people don't use it at all and just rinse their hands with water. Also cheaper brands, often the generic cheapest available, will dry out too much and crack. Decent quality soaps shouldn't dry out. I buy my bathroom soap in bulk packs of eight bars, three packs at a time and store them until needed. None has ever dried and cracked.

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    1. Strangely, the one in the cloakroom was quite expensive (I like decent soap) and none of the other brands I've tried have cracked.

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  5. I remember one of my siblings would get a nappy rash and what worked was using pure velvet soap to soak and wash the nappies. It came in long bars and used to be grated with a kitchen grater. That was a bar, but otherwise I just call daily personal soap a cake. I agree with River about soap drying out, and of course it isn't nice to leave dirty soap for the next person who needs it.

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  6. I didn't know that. I guess I just call it 'soap' as in 'must get more soap out of the cupboard'. Interesting, thanks.

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    1. I usually refer to bars of soap. I love prettily scented soap.

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  7. Interesting - both words used interchangeably at home as i recall it - these days I seem to be with Joy; it's just 'soap'. We use liquid soap at handbasins but that can be messy too if the grandkids spend a day here.

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    1. I 'm never sure whether liquid soaps are very hygienic, especially with children - all those sticky little germs festering on the lever. I think I'm slightly obsessive, if that's possible.

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  8. We use clean liquid soap now, but for years we used Imperial Leather, which when you put down, the label was underneath, which allowed the water to drain off without too much mess. It was always a bar of soap in our house.

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    1. I love Imperial Leather, but never realised the label was a deliberate device to allow the soap to drain. I haven't had any for yonks.

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    2. If you remember their tag line was, we rest on our name.

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  9. I wonder if you could have saved that bar with a good scrubbing, lol.
    I have given into liquid soap over the years except for bathing/showering. Then it is bars.

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    1. Funnily enough, I did give it a good scrubbing, but it didn't look any better. It's doing duty in the kitchen now.

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  10. Very interesting. I always wash my soap after I’ve used it but I didn’t know that you should dry it! I do love a good bar of soap…and especially when it’s in a really pretty wrapper. I met a blogger from the U.S., last summer and she gave me a bar with the most pretty wrapper and the most delightful scent. I haven’t had the heart to open it and so instead it’s in my workroom, keeping the air sweetly smelling! 😁

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    1. I keep soaps in the drawers to scent the clothes.

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    2. That's a good idea for the left over slivers, just let them dry thoroughly first.

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  11. Oh goodness don't get me started on soap!
    I make soap as a hobby and I'm a bit obsessed with it. Quite a lot of soap made by the big companies doesn't contain any glycerin ( naturally produced during saponification) that's because they remove it to use in other products) Soap that develops big fissures that attract dirt probably doesn't contain much glycerin or other good natural oils and butters..........hence it dries out...... yes it should be aired between uses but the nasty staining shouldn't happen with goood soap.
    Lots of folk now make soap at home to sell, think it was something that flourished during lockdown. If they are selling, rather than just gifting it they should be registered and have their recipes tested by a chemist, it's the law in the UK with anything sold that will be used on the skin. Quality does vary a lot - ingredients should be simple - olive oil, coconut oil, castor oil and shea butter for example. There always has to be sodium hydroxide to make saponification happen. Essential oils are optional but they do make soap smell gorgeous.....I could go on..........I'm definitely a soap geek!
    Alison in Wales x

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    1. How fascinating! I bet it's fun deciding on fragrances. Your house must smell wonderful:-)

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  12. Interesting. I just put out a fresh bar of soap in the shower for me. We all have our own (brand) of soap bars. Never heard cake of soap or soap cake which would be dreadful if eaten. 😸

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    1. Just imagine - that would cause some foaming at the mouth!

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  13. I find bar soap dries out my skin. For that reason I prefer liquid.

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  14. In recent times we always use liquid soap/handwash, but prior to this one of our favourite soaps was Imperial Leather. Once you'd used the soap, provided you put it down label side down the water seemed to drain off without too much mess.

    We always called it a bar of soap!

    All the best Jan

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    1. I've always called them bars of soap, too.

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  15. For the most part, I use liquid soap (and have for years) and avoid that problem. Those fissures are ugly, agreed. We always called it a bar of soap but I have heard the expression cake of soap. I wouldn't want to eat that type of cake!

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  16. I love using bars (or is it cakes) of soap rather than liquid soap. For one thing, they last much longer than the average liquid soap. Thank you for enlightening me on the issue of fissures. I'm very particular in cleaning in washing my bars after use, so they aren't really an issue here. I usually leave it to air dry though. xxx

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    1. I think bars of soap last longer, too.

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  17. The idea of drying your soap after each use seems a bit much but I get the concept of it being in a ventilated room so it can dry out naturally.

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    1. Drying the soap and then having to wash the cloth that's been used to dry it . . . never-ending :-)

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  18. Another real soap enthusiast. At school we had blocks of pink carbolic or green laundry soap which the caretaker chopped into chunks with the coal shovel. One boy had his mouth washed out with carbolic soap for swearing.
    I make our laundry liquid with grated soap, borax substitute, and washing soda. Waitrose sensitive soap is lovely, £1.70 for 4 bars. I buy DriPac Pure Liquid Soap for handwash, it is recommended for sensitive skin, and is good for washing woollens and waterproofs too.
    For a treat I buy red stickered soaps from TKMaxx, or their Savon de Marseille liquid soap. DH has Scottish Fine Soaps shaving soap bought unwrapped in packs of five, on eBay
    The last wet sliver of soap is pressed onto the new bar in the shower, and dries on firmly, so none is wasted.

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  19. I keep wrapped soaps in my underwear drawers. I really like scented soap.
    I remember Wright's Coal Tar soap - I quite liked the smell of it.

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